Chicago on “Lockdown”

Except they admit that it has no force of law.

And the Chicago Transit Authority is still running busses and trains. even though it is a major vector for the spread of disease.

The Governor of Illinois got all squirmy when asked at a press conference as to whether he could make it illegal to be outside or even to drive.

And roads and interstates will still be open.

So it’s not a “Lockdown” lockdown….

Question:

We are all told that n-95 (or any other kind) of facemask doesn’t help with prevention re: Covid-19.

(Which I call “Bullshit” on, as the disease, we are told, is spread by droplets from sneezes and coughs, and anyone who has worn a dust mask knows that, while they don’t stop all particles, they do stop the majority….)

But since we are told the masks don’t work, then why is the Health Care industry screaming that they need those same masks? That without them, they will all get sick and die?
Which is it? Either they work, or they don’t.

Also, Have you ever watched to see how those masks are used? They (caregivers) go in to a patient’s room, masked, gloved, gowned.
Once done, when they leave, they remove ALL of the PPE (mask, gloves, gown) and then put on the PPE before entering another patient’s room.
Now I can see gloves, cause they are touching the patient, but mask and gown being completely replaced for EACH patient?
I’m no doctor, but I have to ask why new mask, new gown every time. Especially when the next patient is also sick with the same virus.
I find it hard to believe that 5 minutes of use renders that (doesn’t work anyway!) mask less effective.

It is no wonder they are running out of masks and gowns.

A suggestion: Lots of closed restaurants…they have gloves, if nothing else.

Can any medical professional clarify my questions on PPE? 

The experiment continues….

So far, no Wu-Flu.

And I am keeping to my regimen of C2H5OH.

It appears to be working. Not a bit of coronavirus symptoms.

We shall see how it goes.

(Note: I’m not a Doctor, but I have played one…)

No shit?

Who woulda thunk it?

99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says.

More than 99% of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority


just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.


The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5 (emphasis mine) . As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.


about 100,000 Italians have contracted the virus, daily Il Sole 24 Ore reported. That would bring back the country’s death rate closer to the global average of about 2%

Note: a bunch more deaths in the past 24 hours. So the statistics might well change.

Having said that, the first run, Hot-wash numbers don’t look like it is as bad as the Swine Flu.

Having said that, dead is dead. Might they have died from “normal” flu? Who knows?

As the saying goesL Read the whole thing. 

Have you noticed?

Media and large corporations are now prefacing the explanations of their actions, be they closings, staff reductions, changes in policy or other actions they are taking regarding the corona virus with the words

in an overabundance of caution….”

Methinks they are now realizing that this will be an overblown “Crisis” and they are hedging their bets so they can explain why they are taking actions that might be looked at askance later.

This is a crisis. The potential is there for a great deal of deaths. It was there in 2009 for the Swine Flu pandemic but that was a fizzle.

The “Social Distancing” isn’t a bad idea. The emphasis on personal hygiene…handwashing and/or hand sanitizer use is a great idea (but then it is every cold and flu season). Closing schools? Probably. Closings of restaurants? Probably overkill, but done in “an overabundance of caution” Same same bars. Nightclubs movie theaters and other large gatherings? Probably a good idea. closing places where large groups of people could be in close proximity to one infected person are great vectors for fast spread  isn’t a bad idea at any time when there is an easily communicable disease…in other words EVERY cold and Flu season….

I find it telling that they are prefacing their actions with those words. Methinks that people and governments are beginning to think that they are possibly overreacting and are trying to make sure they have an out when/if this fizzles.

Picking the businesses to damage:

So here in Indiana, Restaurants are closed to eat-in traffic (take out only). Bars are supposed to be closed (not all are complying) Movie theaters are closed.

Now this seems like a good idea to prevent the spread of Covid-19 (even though it appears that the death rate is MUCH lower than promised…lower, in fact than the Swine Flu/H1N1 of 2009) by limiting the amount of time people spend in public. Limiting the number of contacts that they have with other people…

However:

Lots of other businesses are unaffected by closure orders, however. All also could be vectors for the transmissions of disease.

Home Depot stores are open. Also Lowes. Also Best Buy. Also the Cell phone stores. Staples office supplies. All are high traffic stores where LOTS of people interact, pass close to each other, and touch things with their (often grimy and infected) hands.

Why are these places still allowed to be open? The risk of contact with someone in a Lowes store, or a Best Buy is just as high as in a restaurant…probably as high as in a bar. Less of an issue than in a crowded bus or subway car…which services are still operating.

So, I ask. Why are SOME places closed and not others. One could make the argument that the grocery stores are a necessity…one could stretch it to include the rest of the Walmart SuperCenters and the like (Target, Meier, etc).  One could argue that the pharmacies need to be open. Gas stations, yes. But the Convenience store part of most gas stations is NOT a needful, emergency, essential part of commerce. Nor is the rest of the drugstore…..Nor the rest of the WalMart or Target that sells shoes, clothes, pillowcases, sporting goods and makeup.

Liquor stores are open. Yes, for some, a ready supply of wine or hard liquor is a lifestyle requirement, but not a necessity for life.

What criteria are the government using to decide what businesses are damaged by closure and what businesses are not? 

I’m thinking an article 4 issue:

Seems that Dare County NC has blockaded their borders.

Unless they have declared a public emergency, which at this time has not been done, then they are in violation of even North Carolina law.

Here’s the relevant statute:

I would think that someone with standing will sue them. As I have no reason to go to the Outer Banks at this time, this does not affect me.

But apparently one must have the proper papers to trave, there.

Police State. anyone?

I would think that there will be more of this. Foolish, perhaps, but I expect that there are small, tiny minded, fearful, tinpot dictatorial people in lots of places.

Found via Kenny

ETA: I am Not an Attorney….anyone that is one care to give an opinion?