So where is the probable cause

For things like this? I’d love an explanation from a LEO as to how things like this occur….Is it that police assume anyone not in uniform is a suspect? Or that they just like being badasses…..I can see no way that this guy fits the description of the fugitive….Other than being male and human.

I mean, he OBVIOUSLY could fit the description of the guy they are looking for..And he is under duress…Every reason to point a firearm at his head….Right? Right?
/sarcasm

I realize that tensions were high…I realize that the police have a job to do…But really? Following procedure is one thing. Common sense is another. And if they can’t understand the difference, then they shouldn’t be allowed to play with guns and all those other neat toys, much less have the authority and power that they do.

I’d also like to hear the explanation for this:

One would assume that there was a good, CONSTITUTIONAL reason for this. But I can’t think of one. I’ll withhold any comment until the police have a chance to explain. Citizens being treated like criminals? Why?  

A sad, misguided rant

can be found HERE

Some of the comments are even worse.

“Exigent Circumstances”.

Yeah, hold an entire town hostage for half a day….And it is ok, because these are “special” circumstances.

How long can the “Exigent Circumstances” linger? hours? days Weeks/ MONTHS?

What are the definititions of “Exigent”?

Where is the line for a terrible enough crime that this order applies? There are thousands of criminals at large in our cities today….So where is the line?  Murder? Drug dealing? Grand Theft Auto?

Apparently the Constitution can be suspended if the circumstances warrant or if the criminal is evil enough….of if the need is great enough in the rulers government’s mind. Or if it makes the police officers job easier…?

Having said that, really, staying home was probably a good idea Friday afternoon, 4/19, in Boston and the surrounding area. Letting the police do their jobs, not a bad thing. Cooperation? Probably best. But really, their job was done by a civilian. They were alerted by a homeowner, one outside of their perimeter…and they all swarmed in that direction, sirens and lights…Easy to do because those pesky civilians were kept off the streets. Hundreds of cops standing around. Who was protecting the rest of the city?

Asking people to stay inside is a good idea…But to make it on pain of arrest? Really? And for a cop (or anyone) to feel that it is justified? To justify the action of threatening arrest if people were out on the street because “we are tracking a very bad man”….”And you civilians will just be in our way…” Keeping the population in their homes so that the police had control of the streets….

You who agree with the poster should be ashamed of yourselves. Your attitude is what leads to a police state. I am not saying that people should have walked the streets in defiance, but really, you police type folks need to get a grip. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS ATTITUDE. EVER.

You should be ashamed for even thinking like that. Remember Peele.

And it should be pointed out that the fugitive in question was found BY A CIVILIAN…outside the perimeter….after the “shelter in place” order had been lifted. Who then called 911 and let the pros handle the actual arrest and get credit for “finding and capturing” him

BTW, the arresting cops had big brass ones…They had to approach not knowing if he was wired to go boom. Gotta say, they had guts.

I find it interesting

Interesting that when everyone wanted the Bomber(s) arrested after the Boston Marathon, They all were OK with men with pistols and assaullt weapons doing the deed, running around their neighborhoods with guns in their hands ….guns with “High capacity magazines”.

And none of them have spoken up about the fact that they, the citizens of the Greater Boston Metro Area have been effectively disarmed by their government.

I also find it interesting that in the aftermath of the bombings, no one called for pressure cooker controls, background checks for BB’s and nails, etc. They simply pointed the blame where it belongs…on the two men who did this. Not at the retailer who sold the pressure cooker, not at the outlet that sold them the backpack…not at the place where they bought the thousands of bb’s. But at the perpetrators of this crime.

Why can’t they do the same when a firearm is used in a crime?

I know it is a stupid question, but really, can the liberals not separate logic from emotion and use logic in their arguments and criticism ?

Let us not forget:

That, according to record, today was the day that the jews in Warsaw chose to stand up and fight…

To choose not to die like sheep, but rather like wolves.

They know they would dies. They really had no other option.

But rather than cower and wait for their fate, they chose to stand their ground and let their deaths mean something.

Fought like wolves, died like free men and women.

Again, when you have nothing to lose, you fight better.

Some survived.

But more importantly, they stood up.

Question:

Is it legal for the authorities in greater Boston to force (Order) people in certain locations to stay in their homes? Can they enforce that order, legally?

Can they prevent you from going to work?

From going to your friends home?

From going shopping?

Can they order businesses closed?

Search homes without a warrant?

They can order you to do so… But can they legally enforce it?  Can they order a store or gas station to close?

The Police obviously did think that their orders were legal, and the populace (obviously) obeyed.

But did they have to obey those orders? Did those people have to stay home from work?

Where I live, those orders would be unenforceable. Not legal.

Now, make no mistake, if a crazed person were running round with explosives while being hunted by the police, following those orders might just be a good idea. Probably save a lot of hassle if you did so.

But One wonders if they were really legal.  Really enforceable. Or if the populace just went along. Which isn’t, really, such a bad idea in this instance. 

No matter

How you look at it, Today was really the birth of our nation:

On this day in1775, thanks to the warning issued by William Dawes and Paul Revere, the colonists were ready to resist.attempted confiscation..Ready to resist the  King… Ready for the attempt to restrict their freedoms and options  Today, really is the anniversary of the beginning of our country. This was the day of resistance. The day that people stood up and said “Enough!”.  This was the day, so long ago, that the founders of our country chose to determine their own fate and told the King that he no longer ruled them.That they would not be kept as serfs, but rather would determine their own fate,

Was it desperation that made them make that choice? Fear that they had no choice…that if they allowed the agents and soldiers of the King to take action that they would never have another chance….never again have the ability to choose their future? Likely we will never know. All we know is that they did make that choice, and in doing so, set into motion a chain of events which led to the birth of a great nation. One that we are citizens of today. It led to the creation of a set of rules that allowed freedom with responsibility and which gave the citizens the ability to flourish under it’s protection.

We owe those folks who stood up all those years ago, for their courage, their determination, and their legacy.