It is bad enough that they use the dead children as props in their assault on your freedom.

But those who are allowing Gabby Giffords to be used as a tool in the fight for gun control should be beaten about the knees with a small ball peen hammer.

Question for the police:

Since the LAPD seems to feel that they have the right to murder Christopher Dorner….The fact that they have attempted to do so twice, opening fire wildly on pickups that (sorta, in the fact that they are pickups) resemble Mr Dorner’s…..piloted by people who don’t resemble him at all demonstrates this.

Does Mr. Dorner have the right to due process? To the assumption of innocence until tried and convicted? Or do the police have the right to presumptively kill him to safeguard themselves? I realize that they think that he killed “one of their own”, but does that suspicion give them the right to kill him over that suspicion rather than attempt to arrest him?

Do you and I have that right? Can we preemptively unload the contents of our firearms in the general direction of someone we suspect may do us harm? Do we have the right to kill someone we think may have murdered a family member or friend? Or are we required to let the justice system work and let the State decide the punishment? Have we the right to take the law into our own hands?

Apparently the police do (or at least they THINK they do, and no one is stopping them). While it appears that Mr. Dorner has done some bad things, do the police have the right to gun him down without attempting to arrest him first? For all we know, he is innocent of the charges. (probably not, but until tried, do they have the right to execute him?). They act as if they DO have the right, if only to protect themselves. I disagree. If they are that afraid, the perhaps they are in the wrong line of work. If they cannot accept that the job has a certain amount of risk, then perhaps they should choose another profession.

The police DO NOT have the right to preemtively gun down a person suspected of a crime. Period. Be it against the police fraternity or any other citizen. They may (obviously) feel that they do, in order that they go home safe at the end of the day. Or to extract “Justice”.  Too bad. They don’t have that right.

‘Cause if they have that right, then the rest of us do too. And truthfully, I think the police are as much a danger to me as any other people I meet on a daily basis. Which would make them legal targets for me. Which would turn out bad for everybody involved. Luckily, I don’t have that right….Neither should the police….nor do they.

I really don’t think that the LAPD is any different in attitude than most other police departments. Which should be a lesson for all of us. 

Jay helps the LAPD

HERE.

Might help…..

Rumor has it that the Los Angeles Police have changed their procedures for stopping pickups.

After the two incidents (see below) the new procedure is to continue firing  in order that there are no complaints about unjustifiable shootings.

No victims were available for comment.

Think about this:

Hundreds of people are killed in the greater LA area every year. Some, of course, are drug dealers killed buy other drug dealers and such. But many aren’t.

Yet the cops accept these killings of innocents as normal. Part of the day’s events. Just one of those things.

But some dude threatens cops and cop’s families. They mobilize EVERYONE. They shoot at shadows. Nearly kill anyone who they perceive (however wrongly, see my previous posts). The entire LA basin’s police force is focused on one thing, killing Chris Dorner.

Now I understand that they see him as a threat. But it looks to me like the police administration are willing to spend a great deal of overtime putting cops on the street looking for this guy, and in protective details for their own. But they can’t be bothered to do so for the “average” person on the street. No overtime to clean out the bad areas, no manhunts for folks who kill only ordinary citizens.

Why is that?

And another thought:

Christopher Dorner isn’t Superman. He doesn’t appear to have more than average skills with firearms. Nor does he seem to be any more dangerous than  the average firearm owner anywhere else. Yet he has the cops peeing in their boots. Shooting at noises and shadows. Scared enough that they are shooting first and checking later. (and luckily, apparently not aiming either)

If people chose to, (and lets face it, there are more of us than there are of them, and it is a good thing that we are all decent law abiding citizens, at least so far) how much fear, chaos and damage could we citizens do to the police should we choose to make that happen? To emulate the example of Christopher Dorner? To go hunting?To target them? What happens when death comes from 600 yards away? When ambushes happen?  What happens when the citizens grow tired of the abuses?

‘Cause the only thing that keeps us at bay is the rule of (and belief in) the law. Common decency and the fact that we respect (so far) the laws enough to overlook much of the behavior of the police.

Should that change, then what? What will they do? One dude has them scared. What happens when it becomes many people? People who have real serious skills, not cop level skills. People who practice for fun, not because it is part of the job. Think that’ll be different than ganging up 10-1 on some street level gang banger and his friends at night?

Methinks this needs pondering.

Any pickup, Any truck at all…. and I lived in or near LA…..Any color, any make, any model, any age….

I think I’d park it right now, in order to keep the LA law enforcement community from mistaking it for one driven (Or, more likely abandoned by now) by Christopher Dorner, the fugitive.

Seems that the cops in the greater Los Angeles area can’t determine color, make or model of a truck. Can’t determine the size or race of the driver. Luckily for one pickup driver, David Perdue, they can’t hit anything that they shoot at either. I figure he is, thanks to the Torrance cops, set for life(after the lawsuit).

  
     David Perdue was on his way to sneak in some surfing before work
Thursday morning when          police flagged him down. They asked who he was and
where he was headed, then sent him on his way.

Seconds later, Perdue’s attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser
slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets
struck Perdue.

His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner
— the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three
and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors.
And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He’s several inches shorter and
about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white; Dorner is black.

“I don’t want to use the word buffoonery
but it really is unbridled police lawlessness,” said Robert Sheahen,
Perdue’s attorney. “These people need training and they need restraint.”

The incident involving Perdue was the second time police looking for the fugitive former LAPD officer opened fire on someone else. The shootings have raised concerns that the fear Dorner has instilled has added another layer of danger.

Seriously. This is scary. I realize that the man is a danger to police…I realize that he is a dangerous individual. That he has a mission, and has killed or wounded several people, all police officers or related to the police department.

But is there any excuse for this behavior? Any excuse for endangering the lives of the citizens that the police are sworn to “serve and protect?

Rule one: “Know your target and what is beyond it”…..Fail.

If you, or I, or any group of gun people were to handle their firearms in such an unsafe manner, we’d be disarmed, jailed, and punished…. and rightfully so. Are the cops disarmed? Jailed?

Chris Dorner must have them TERRIFIED. Scared shitless. Absolutely quaking in their jackboots.

But their behavior is inexcusable. Period. Shooting at a white guy because he is in a pickup of a different make and model when they are looking for a black guy in another pickup of a different type is just plain crazy. Apparently, the cops are a greater danger to the public than the fugitive they are seeking.

These incidents show, however, the mentality that the police in larger cities have.  THey really aren’t worried about the safety of anyone but their own.

And that should frighten and anger you.

Plan accordigly.

The lovely Ms. X points out that the media hides the fact that some of our whacko spree killers are not so terribly conservative after all, and some are, actually, really left wing supporters.

A bit of research will show that this IS TRUE.  Additionally, the media goes to great lengths to hide the fact that they too have their share of violent psychotic killers. (In fact, were we to bother to accumulate statistics, I believe that they would have a significantly higher percentage of such people).

But the media and the left (but I repeat myself) go to great lengths to conflate spree killers of any kind woith conservatives and (specially) the Tea Party.

Sadly, many people believe whatever the “Nightly Newz” tells them, never questioning, and therefore forms an opinion without any (actual) knowledge with which to do so.

Rob Allen has it NAILED