“We are socialist already”

Yep, I have heard it 4 times now from liberals.

Once from my brother, a state away, who is not so much a liberal as a follower….His wife was an academic who had to get a job in the private sector to pay her bills, but an unrepentant liberal nonetheless.

Once from a union man. A Teamster. Salt of the earth kinda guy, but a Teamster…..He regurgitates all of the liberal cant that is repeated at union hall meetings.

Once from an academic at VU….this is the sort of thing that one might expect from an academic at a state run university, but from a Lutheran university???

And once today, Saturday….I had business downtown, and, just for fun, stopped to laugh and point at the 6 (rather pathetic looking, I might add) folks waving signs (no longer pre-printed, but actual handmade signs so that we might think that they weren’t astroturf or anything…) promoting government option health care. After watching them for a few minutes, I engaged the brightest looking one in conversation, asking him how he could stand behind such a socialist agenda as government run health care….His first response was “well, we are halfway socialist anyway….Medicare, roads, military, and police and fire and interstate highways are “socialist” endeavors, paid for by all for the “common good”…. so why not health care?”

I did try to discuss the ideas with him, but it became apparent that he was not willing to discuss things, but rather was just going to repeat his memorized lines, so I politely thanked him for his time and wandered off. He returned to the group, no doubt thinking and crowing that he had chased away another conservative…Let him think so. It doesn’t hurt me to have him feel good about his failure.

But the point of all of this is that this appears to be the new meme…..”We are halfway socialist already, so what is one more socialist program or agenda item?”

Just wondering if others have come across this meme, and have you any good way to crush the assumptions that are so erroneous? Roads are paid for (at least in my state) by fuel taxes, as are the highways. Police and fire I can sort of understand, and couldn’t argue with and the same with military, (except they are all part of the “common defense” mentioned in the Constitution.)

But is this going to be their next theme that they shall use to convince a few more people that socialized medicine is a good idea? Just another step down the road to pure socialism? Am I supposed to think that that is a good thing?

Please let me know.

This lady got her say….Wonder if anyone listened? (HT TB2K)

More of this is needed, until they get the message.

Until and unless, of course, we as citizens decide to buy some rope, and find a few handy trees for those who don’t….

Or we water the tree of liberty. Any of the three works for me.

Lets hope that they listen so we don’t have to take other measures.

http://servicewire.org/node/6620

Mr Obama will address the schoolchildren and exhort them to “do more, do something for your country…..” and “Obama will address students “about the importance of persisting and succeeding in school” at 1 p.m. Eastern at the WhiteHouse.gov website. The announcement said the federal Department of “is encouraging educators, students and parents to use this opportunity to help students get focused and begin the school year strong.” The government also is publicizing a list of suggestions for students and teachers to do in preparation for the speech, including studying Barack Obama’s writings and presidency. Obama had announced the speech during a child reporter’s visiting the White House.

Not everyone is happy about it though…..”You can call it what you will but Obama Youth or Hitler Youth … This is much too slippery a slope, this day and age with the role of government becoming more invasive the last thing I want is for ‘them’ to get a tooth into my kids,”

More HERE

He might just want to try and make a difference in kids education by persuading them to do well in school……But then again, his record so far makes one wonder…what will he say? The NEA has already indoctrinated so many children already, so what will he say to make a real difference?

“Obama Youth Corps” anyone?

One wonders….

and somehow….we never learn.

Same mistakes, over and over and over.

“The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.” ~ Cicero – 55 BC

Sound familiar?

Thought so.

Via TB2K I bring you THIS:

FOXNews.comWednesday, September 02, 2009

Van Jones, the Obama administration’s “green jobs” adviser, told a group of listeners earlier in the year that the reason Republicans are stonewalling the president is because they’re “assholes.”

Jones’ remarks were recorded in a video from February that was posted to YouTube.

He made the remark during an energy lecture in Berkeley, Calif., after a woman in the audience asked him why President Obama and congressional Democrats were having trouble moving legislation — even though Republicans, with a smaller majority, didn’t have as much trouble earlier in the Bush administration. “Well, the answer to that is, they’re assholes,” Jones said, to uproarious laughter. “That’s a technical, political science term.”

Apparently, it was ok to block the Bush administraation’s legislation, but not the Obama administration’s.

These people act like children. Poorly raised children at that.

The scary part is that they are nominally in charge now.

“Hope and Change” and all that.

Oh, and BTW, on our way back from the Indy Gun Show, we stopped at a Whole Foods to buy something just to support the chain.

As some of you know, I sell a gun cleaning product called Strike-Hold through my company, 3 Part Supply. We were at the Indy 1500 gun show this Fri, Sat, and Sunday.

Near the end of the show, a black couple were wandering around, with the male wearing what appeared to be a brand new “Obama” T-shirt. I have no idea how long he had been at the show, but the Obama t-shirt did stand out. (the show, while primarily attended by whites, did have a fair amount of other ethnicities and races but few, if any admitted Obama disciples. He stopped across the aisle from our table and I commented to another vendor about the foolishness of wearing that t-shirt at a gun show. After looking at several pistols, he filled out a 4473 and waited while his info was called in to the NICS database for verification/approval. Being the good capitalist that I am, I figured that he was a potential sale for a can of Strike-Hold for maintenance of his newly purchased firearm, (and things were slowing down as it was the end of the show…) so I engaged him in conversation. ( Besides….I just had to find out if he was sane or ballsy or whatever for wearing that t-shirt to the gun show).

Somewhat defiantly, he asked if I was willing to talk to him even though he was wearing an Obama t-shirt (apparently, he had gotten some comments from other show attendees and vendors that he had found offensive). I replied that “I really don’t care about your choice of president, and you are now a gun owner”, and attempted to tell him about the benefits of Strike-Hold. He kept bringing the conversation back to his choice of t-shirt and to Mr. Obama. I suggested that, while his choice of apparel was not well thought out, he did have the right to wear whatever he wanted, even though Mr. O was not a favorite amongst the gun show crowd. He replied with something about “free speech”, and that some vendors had refused to sell him anything, and implied that it might be about his race. I countered that free speech works both ways, and suggested that had I been wearing a KKK shirt, he might have chosen to not talk with me or to buy my product. I pointed out that “freedom of speech works both ways”, but he seemed to discount that concept (the implication was that only his view mattered, often an attitude of the “thinking” liberal). I also suggested to him that most vendors here cared more about the color of his money than the color of the hand that he used to hand it over when he made a purchase.

I asked if it was his first handgun purchase, and he said that it was. I suggested that if he had not had training, that a handgun course was a good idea , and that the folks at the NRA booth could help him find training. I also mentioned the 4 rules for firearms, and suggested that he learn to follow them for his safety and the safety of others. The man was nice, decent, fairly well educated, spoke well, and seemed to be genuinely interested in my suggestions. But there was something wrong….He just didn’t seem right.

His paperwork went through, and he took possession of his new GLOCK handgun in .40 S+W (no stereotypes at work here….). I congratulated him on his purchase, and moved away so he could complete his transaction.

He did come over to the table, and, after asking a few questions, purchase a can for maintenance and cleaning of his new firearm.

To get to the point: He didn’t seem like the typical firearm purchaser….Not because of his race, but because of his liberal leaning, and because of his demeanor. Something Ican’t put my finger on, but something wasn’t right. HE had stated that he had “just put that shirt on that morning, and I wear it all the time” yet it was brand new….I sincerely hope that the FFL/seller did everything correctly, because on the drive home, I came to the conclusion that, while I cannot be sure, he was there to find something for an upcoming story, perhaps on television or something. Perhaps something about discrimination based on his choice of shirt, or president, or an expose’ of racial discrimination at gun shows, or how easy it is to buy a firearm at a gun show, or something or something like that… His companion always had her purse held under her arm, and always pointed at he and myself….Video perhaps?

Perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps I will never know. But there was something just not right about this dude.

Look for something in the Indianapolis paper, or TV, or something in the near future…….I would bet money that he (and perhaps I?) will be in a story. Sure hope I look good and sound good on the hidden video.

That everywhere else in the world, poor people are thin

Yet in America, poor people are generally the fattest?

Just wonderin….