I mean, every single media outlet has apparently forgotten the fraud in the somali communites in our country…
No one has mentioned it for over a week.
Remember: It wasn’t just in Minneapolis, it was everywhere that has a large somali (and apparently ethiopian also) grouping of immigrants. Yet the media has just dropped it.
Remember also that the fraud has been known for several years, the DOJ just hasn’t bothered to do anything about it (which makes me think that some Important People have their hands out and are getting their proper cut of the pie). I still haven’t seen anyone perp walked for any of this fraud that has cost the US taxpayer BILLION$ of dollars.
Just think about this: The US government is paying nearly $20,000 PER KID per year for child care (whether it is real or not)…not just to somali daycares, but everywhere. That also ahs to stop. If a woman has 3 kids, the daycare subsidy alone likely is more than the wages she makes working while her kids are in government paid daycare. This has got to stop, be it somalis with nonexistent kids in a “Learing center” or anywhere else.
Of course it’s gone, it’s ’embarrassing’…
Yep, the Minneapolis ant-ICE riots took it right out of the news cycle – exactly as they were planned and organized to do.
Maybe it was an exasperated nothingburger the entire time?
So you think the BILLIONS in fraud is NOTHING?
Really?
Oh no, I don’t think that at all. Any and all fraud should be prosecuted.
I think that far too much COVID slush money was there for the abuse and I think far more took advantage of it than what’s being told.
With that said, Trump does have a unique talent of finding smoke, turning it into a five alarm fire, and then designating himself as the only one who can put it out.
Perhaps my wording of “nothingburger” was a bit off the mark but in asking why the silence, perhaps, what happened to the smoke? And, why are we not putting out that fire?
I think you are missing the point:
The daycare fraud by the somalis is, and ahs been) ongoing. It isn’t “covid money”, it is (or was, until the Trump people finally stopped it at least temporarily) current and ongoing fraud. Billions of dollars billed for daycare for nonexistent children. Hundreds per location, hundreds of locations.
They were ach “inspected” yearly by the State of Minnesota (and, apparently, also in Ohio)
Yet no one in the state governments did anything about it for YEARS, until a YouTube journalist made it viral. There had been rumors, but since I don’t live in Minneapolis I and lots of others didn’t bother because we dodn’t know the scope of the fraud.
I’m not sure why you are conflating this current fraud with “Covid money” from 2019 or so.
I’m not conflating the programs — I’m pointing out a pattern.
Large-scale fraud doesn’t happen because of ethnicity, it happens when reimbursement systems are poorly designed, lightly audited, and politically inconvenient to scrutinize.
If this is truly billions in non-COVID, ongoing daycare fraud, then the questions remain the same: How much has actually been charged vs. proven? How much has been recovered? How many convictions? And what specific policy or enforcement change stopped it?
Those aren’t defensive questions — they’re the difference between outrage and accountability.
If the system allowed fake children to be billed for years, that’s an indictment of the system first, not just the people who exploited it.
And when it is a single segment of our immigrant population that is doing it, it is an indictment of that segment as well.
I cannot believe that you are unaware of the daycare fraud in the US, especially in (but not limited to) the Somali communities.
Do you live under a rock?
I’m aware of daycare fraud cases — including Minnesota — and I’m not denying them.
Where I disagree is the leap from a visible cluster of cases to how it indicts an entire immigrant segment.
Fraud indicts the people who committed it and the systems that enabled it.
When Medicare fraud spikes in one region, we don’t indict the ethnicity of providers there — we indict individuals and fix the reimbursement rules that made the fraud easy.
If the oversight failed for years, that’s a systemic failure first. Opportunists exploiting a broken system isn’t proof of cultural pathology — it’s proof the system was ripe for abuse.
And yet it wasn’t the east asians, nor the Chinese, nor the Thais, nor the Hmong, all large parts of the immigrant population in Minnesota, nor even the largest immigrant group, the Hispanics….it was the somalis, in both Minneapolis and Ohio.
Strange that.
The Somalis are generally part of any fraud. It seems to be part of their culture.
It appears that the morals of the Northeastern Africans are somewhat incompatible with european based societies. Theft and fraud are most common when they are present. Yes, it is a generalization, but then again, those reputations are earned, both here and in western Europe.
Like the Palestinians, the Somalis (and Ethiopians) are generally disliked by other ethnic groups…..for a reason.
Thank you for allowing me to share my opinion on your space and not meaning to be a contrarian but this is obviously something we disagree on.
You’re no longer arguing about fraud or oversight — you’re arguing that an entire population carries moral guilt based on ethnicity and reputation.
Fraud follows access and opportunity. Every large fraud wave in this country — Medicare, PPP, defense contracting, banking — clustered where systems were weak and money flowed automatically.
If this were truly cultural, the determining factor wouldn’t be program design, inspection failures, or payment mechanics — yet those are exactly what enabled it.
The reason the story cooled isn’t because people went silent — it’s because outrage doesn’t survive contact with audits, prosecutions, and actual numbers.
Individual criminals deserve prosecution. Broken systems deserve reform.
Collective guilt isn’t accountability — it’s a shortcut.
I agree that not all somalians (and other north africans) are criminals.
But their culture is one of taking, of fraud (although I don’t think they conceive of it as fraud, just free shot for the taking).
Yes, in their minds of they can take that money with few or no penalties, then why not?
In that we agree, but the concept that the fault lies with the government for not stopping it rather than the somalis for behaving as they do is where we differ.
Each cultural group ahs baggage. But the North Africans have earned their reputation for a reason.