Apparently President Trump has claimed that he is interested in “taking over” Greenland, by force if necessary…..
I am all for the US having Greenland as a protectorate, or even a state, should that come to pass.
As long as the citizens of Greenland want that.
So far, I have seen nothing to make me believe that either the government nor the citizenry of Greenland are even leaning in that direction. They are an autonomous portion of Denmark, and thus part of a NATO ally.
Plus, if the US does it, then we cannot object when China takes over Taiwan or when Putin invaded another baltic country besides Ukraine.
And I don’t see where the US has lost anything in Greenland.
Thus I think at this point “Taking over” would be an invasion, and illegal.
We’ve had this discourse before, do libertarians not realize the US has been an empire since around 1840 – once it could?
I celebrate your focusing on individual liberties, but that canvas only exists if America does – even in a hegemonic connotation.
The hemisphere is ours, it has been since our founding.
Dannie:
Go the fuck away and find somewhere else please.
You don’t belong here.
I tire of your attitude and beliefs. .
Trump needs to know when to take the win and stop being a blowhard.
Antagonizing Denmark like this is counterproductive. We already have bases in Greenland and with some reasonable diplomacy could get all we need there and ensure our security there.
Just like his screwing up relations with Canada by antagonizing them about annexing them — which he wasn’t actually going to do – which then cost him an easy ally and a conservative government there, he’s spouting off and creating issues and anti-American sentiment where they didn’t previously exist, or at least not to this extent.
He’s smarter than this and he really needs to stop with the empty boasting and bloviation and dunking on allies as none of it is actually benefiting him or the USA.
Your thoughts on Greenland and Canada are very similar to mine, as someone who was pleased of T’s support of protesters during the Convoy, there were many who, at that time would have loved to either personally join the US, or have, say for example Alberta separate and join, allowing small “c” conservative Canadians a refuge from the Trudeau regime.
Then he knifed us in the back with all this 51st state nonsense because it spooked the herd of normies/libtards to vote in Carney (even though T said he preferred Carney as PM, normally that would be the kiss of death,but they were so afflicted with TDS that they applied it to the Conservative party leader up here).
Most ppl in the US don’t care/wouldn’t bother learning the history pf both nations, but the US trying to annex/fight us is more the default than ppl think (the post ’45 lovefest is an anomaly as the world needed a breather from war). The french/Indian war, the revolution,the war of 1812, the fenian raids, the US tried and failed to take us over (wonder if they fixed the fire damage fully in the White House burning during that war…that was us). The US even had a previously classified “war plan red” had done up in the early 30s when they were floating the idea of fighting Britain over WW1 debts and had planned to use poison gas bombs over Halifax, a major eastern port, so US “friendship” with Canada is taken with a big dose of salt, it’s why so much of Canadian identity is in being “not American”.
As for Greenland, there has to be something else at play as during the cold war they have bent over backwards allowing the US to have bases (the US has left tons of radioactive waste there not only from general use, but they had tried to set up a reactor or some such BS under the ice in the 50s, back when we thought we’d use this new fangled atomic energy for everything). So, there’s really no “security” request I could see them refusing if the US needed moar ships etc to keep the Rooskies oot.
I think it mostly has to do with T’s ego, to be able to say he got a big new piece of land for the US, a la Seward,he seems enamored with 19th century presidents & thinks the world works on that format, lucky for him, the crashing economies, lack of trust, fourth turning, etc. may but us back to those times. Sure, there’s the case for having it to check on/collect tolls for potential new northern sea route, and eventually they’ll have a cheaper way to get minerals out of the rock under a mile or so of ice, but T’s thinking is about here and now, not the future, unless he gets credit for it.
Like you, a pre-condition for adding Greenland would be do the residents there want to become part of America ? I’m guessing a lot of them would not approve of purple haired crazies being allowed to live there. I understand Iceland allows mental challenged people to have assisted suicide as a recommendation.
The citizens of Denmark do not care that their country is being taken over by and being destroyed by Muslims? But they are aware that America wants to negotiate, even pay for Greenland?