But for the turn of his head

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(Updates as they occur to me)

 

We’d be talking about a different subject in this post.

(and we’d likely be seeing a civil war beginning here in the US)

The story is unfolding….and the storyline is, of course, still being trimmed and adjusted.

As it is, this early in the timeline, we have to ask:

How did a man with a rifle get to within less than 500 feet of Trump (or the area in general) with a rifle?

One might wonder: why no helicopter or drones for overhead watch?

Was this guy another Adderall filled drone under the control of the Feebs like so many of the other shooters in the recent past?

A headshot at that distance is not that difficult, but it does take some training and steady hands…neither of which the shooter appears to have had……

Would security have been this poor if it was Biden?  If so, why? If not, why was there a lower tier of security for the man who might well become the next president?

 

 

 

 

Is there a fund for the people who were shot ?   (Link provided by Rick in comments)    https://www.givesendgo.com/VictimsTrumpRallyShooting

 

 

And, sadly, in today’s age, one has to wonder: Was this staged? I mean, was this supposed to be another Dallas but the shooter missed? It’s not, sadly, outside of the realm.

 

ETA: Kudos to the Secret Service agents who did their job and surrounded Mr. Trump and put their (body armor clad) bodies between him and any continued threat. That takes dedication to your job.

 

Also: My dad pointed out that anyone with even a bit of sense had to know that being the shooter was gonna be suicide. There was no way that the shooter cold get out of this alive. One wonders.

 

ETA: (Conspiracy theory time: Dude (Patsy)on the roof shot at the people in the crowd, Unsupported with an AR at more than 100 yards, so not terribly accurate….But he wasn’t a precision shooter either…..)

Another person was in the barn, out of sight, unseen,  A skilled professional, shooting the “Money Shot” from a rest and with a rifle in the same caliber. Much like the JFK assassination in Dallas in 1963….Prove me wrong…..This is a much more likely scenario. How shiny is your tinfoil hat?

 

 

 

 

 

19 thoughts on “But for the turn of his head”

  1. ny post reported shooter was chinese? since that i’ve seen 3 different names, none chinese.

    • Thomas Matthew Crooks is the name that credible news sources are telling us at this time.

      • A couple of things: First, the guy wasn’t a “terrible shot.” If he had a one-MOA rifle he could theoretically put all his rounds in a two-inch circle around his point of aim. One MOA is the radius of the circle, not the diameter. Lots of people get that wrong. Plus, he had an unknown and unpredictable crosswind.
        Secondly, I was never an SS agent, but in election years the SS doesn’t have enough people to run all its protective details, so it drafts agents from other agencies, so I did work a protection detail. When you do that you’re assigned a post and you don’t leave it for any reason. If someone comes up to you and says they saw a guy with a gun around the corner, you call your command post. If you leave your post to investigate, you’ve just created a hole that anyone can walk through. It’s also probable that the officers thought the roof was secured and the witness saw another LEO. (I couldn’t tell you how many times I had the police called on me when I was watching a perimeter.)
        If you’ve ever worked in a bureaucracy, you wouldn’t see a conspiracy in every screwup.

        • I’ll throw something else out here: The SS isn’t a very big outfit, and protection details eat up a lot of people and burn them out fairly quickly, so in election years when they have a lot of protectees, they draft agents from other agencies. That’s how I wound up on a SS protection detail. I’d be willing to lay odds that at least a quarter of the “Secret Service” agents there weren’t actual SS agents but were draftees from HSI or another agency. They’re trained in protection but not to the level that SS agents are.
          And re RFK Jr.: In order to be entitled to SS protection a candidate has to have polled a certain percentage of the vote, and RFK didn’t reach that threshold. In that case the DHS can authorize protection but since protection details are so manpower-intensive there usually has to be a proven higher threat potential. That said, I believe that Mayorkas was derelict in his duty to RFK. But at least what he did was legal. That’s something, right?

        • 3 things:

          You need to review what MOA means. A 1 MOA group is 1.047 inches in DIAMETER, not radius.

          If he had a 1 MOA capable rifle, he still had to make the shot. I strongly doubt that a guy who was so bad that he couldn’t make the rifle team just picked up an AR and somehow found a way to be that accurate while on a roof, unsupported, after climbing a ladder and bear crawling up the roof to the peak in 90 degree heat under stress. Oddly enough, the rest of his shots appeared to be relatively random, Why should we think his first shot was the only accurate one?

          “If you’ve ever worked in a bureaucracy, you wouldn’t see a conspiracy in every screwup.” It is also true that one cannot tell a total screw up from malice aforethought. They both appear to be the same.. especially when there is no accountability. Still, I have to ask why NO ONE wondered why the closest roof was unguarded?

  2. How could it be staged? Not being snarky; just asking about the sort of finesse would have to be employed by the shooter to “just” nick his ear.
    MOA comes immediately to mind. Minute of Angle. The amount of deflection that a bullet acquires the further away from the barrel.
    If this was staged….and the shooter wanted to just nick the ear. Boy Howdy!!! Then Trump has a hhhyyyyuuuggge set of brass ones. I mean standing there, waiting for a shot to just nick his ear!??!? And knowing that MOA could be EITHER side of that line of flight. Nope, not buying that oblique line of thinking.
    What I am buying is this. The dude was an operative of the alphabet organizations. He was hyped up to believe that Trump was Hitler. And that reminds me; didn’t biden state “…put Trump in the crosshairs…” recently?
    Also, I am buying the truth that demoncrats are really, really evil. Maybe a small percentage of them can be saved. But, for the majority, meh.

    • Sorry I was unclear.

      (I did say “Like Dallas”)

      Not the “almost” shooting…..that would take a REALLY good shooter and exemplary timing on everyone’s part. (You don’t have to (try) to explain to me or lecture me on the shooting physics part, I shoot regularly at significantly farther distances that than those which took place yesterday. I do know what I am talking about here, you obviously know just a little.. (I did the math on that which you are implying yesterday, BTW) And we can discuss that if you’d like…..but, again, not what I meant. )

      I mean the whole thing was staged and Trump was supposed to get shot and maybe killed. How else do you explain the lack of overwatch and really bad security?

      • Apparently from all reports Myorakas would not approve additional security. Which is has now apologized for and has increased security for DJT. But people there were warning the FBI they could find to tell them about the shooter.

      • Erp, sorry ’bout that. I was thinking “staged’ as in FOR the Trump team. Not against the Trump team.
        Oh and the lesson about shooting dynamics….it was a scree brought about from another post that galled my cajones. You just got the “spew”.
        But the lesson is now out there for others to be educated.
        Oh and my tin foil hat is VERY shiny!!!! Just look at how many of the conspiracy theories have been proven true.

  4. This guy had to be an incredibly bad shot. Thank a merciful heaven.

    I can hit minute of saucer at 150Y offhand right now, and this guy couldn’t hit anything but the tip of an ear with 5-8 shots?

    Basic marksmanship started at the 200Y line, comprised half the rounds fired (25/50) for qual score, and was gravy for everyone. I rarely dropped more than 1-2 points at that range, out of 125.

    By rights, even for someone barely competent, Trump should have been ventilated. This was either an incredibly bad shooter, or an incredibly miraculous outcome. Take your pick.

    And apparently Secret Service is now employing blind agents to watch vantage points. Even the countersniper team watched the guy through scopes for nearly a minute (there is video), and didn’t shoot him until after he’d gotten off several shots.

    If his first shot had been an inch or two right, Trump’s head explodes on live TV worldwide. The return fire simply ends the evidence chain, and shuts the kid’s mouth forever. Just a coincidence, of course.

    So, what are the odds that there’s NO SECURITY WHATSOEVER around the entire building that provides the second-closest overwatch position to fire at the rally stage, and that some random 20-year old drives there, of all places, 60 miles from home, carrying and setting up a 15′-20′ foot ladder, climbs onto the roof in broad daylight with snipers watching him through scopes of 10x or better, carrying a pack and an AR-15, sets up, and gets off 5-8 shots before they respond?

    And I’m supposed to believe they couldn’t tell what he was doing until there were rounds incoming?

    B.S. flag thrown, hard!

    That whole protective team should be swapped with Biden’s guys, or simply fired outright.

    This was assclown-level “security”, and it’s hard to ascribe this serial lapse in response to anything but deliberately setting Trump up for a Dealey Plaza Haircut.

    One or more people on this detail is batting for the other team, and they should start waterboarding the lot of them until they find the guilty party(ies).

    • I think his shot (whoever did the shot) was right on (supposed to go into his ear), and Trump simply turned his head at the right (wrong) time.
      I don’t buy your story about how easy that shot was. Perhaps for you (but then again, you are awesome at everything, even when you are wrong about it) but for an average joe, (and if this dude was a competitive shooter or whatever we’d have hard about it) a 150(ish) yard shot, unsupported, on a roof, with the heat and stress, might be a tad more difficult. Yes, I can make that shot,(but I shoot at that kind of distance more than once a week), and I have no doubt you could once (but shooting is a perishable skill)…but not everyone has that talent.

      He had to know that it was a suicide mission, which ups the level of difficulty greatly also.

      More likely he’s as much a patsy as L.H. Oswald.

      feel free to bloviate on farther how you could do it on one leg while swilling cheap beer and banging your stainless steel balls together… in a 20 MPH crosswind….under fire. Go ahead.

      • The shot (we don’t have ballistics on the other shots) would qualify for Army AQL
        That shot would be a ‘hit’ at any Project Appleseed event.
        The kid was civilian, no military service. That shot would have put food on the table if the target were larger than approx. 8×8”.

        My dad qual’d expert rifle, expert pistol every year of his 22 yrs active USMC. What he didn’t do was talk about. That is/was expected of every Marine. You don’t need to talk about it.

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  6. Plenty of questions but with the FBI leading the coverup….err “investigation” don’t be expecting any answers. At least no honest ones.

  7. Gives new meaning to the term, “Turn the other cheek”

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