Is what I voted for.
No more letting Zelensky set the terms, telling the US what sort of aid the US will provide and when.
Of course, this ,likely means that about a third of that “aid” money won’t be laundered and shipped back to the US in the form of kickbacks to our legislators and other government officials, but I really couldn’t care les about that.
Zelenski is on record saying the kickbacks to Washington was 50%. Trump noticed it. Media says it is all a lie.
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-has-received-less-than-half-of-us-assistance-allocated-during-full-scale-war-zelensky-says/
The U.S. decides what aid to send, not Zelensky. If the issue is repayment, do you feel the same about Israel, Taiwan, and other allies? And if there’s real evidence of ‘kickbacks,’ let’s see it—otherwise, that’s just a convenient excuse to ignore the real issue.
Yes, I do believe that about all the other countries. And those countries are allies. Ukraine is not. Other than cheap mail-order-brides, Ukraine offers nothing useful to the US.
See the comment above yours for data on kickbacks:
Zelensky demanded that “aid” and got it. Why should he be able to demand anything??? And yes, Biden and his family got paid for it. If you can’t see that, look at Burisma and Hunter Biden for a start.
I think you are a troll.
I’m not here to troll—just to engage in a fact-based, constructive debate.
Ukraine has been a U.S. strategic partner since the 1990s, receiving bipartisan support from every administration. If the argument is that we should cut off all non-NATO allies, that’s a position worth debating. But pretending this partnership only began in 2022 ignores decades of history.
If your case against Ukraine includes degrading its women, that says more about your stance than it does about the country itself.
Burisma and Hunter Biden have been investigated for years, with no evidence that Joe Biden’s actions as president were influenced. Meanwhile, Trump openly attempted to withhold aid to Ukraine for political dirt and has deep business ties to foreign governments. If corruption is truly the concern, shouldn’t the same standard apply to both?
If disagreeing with you makes me a ‘troll,’ that suggests this isn’t a space for open discussion—just an echo chamber. If you’re up for debating facts instead of trading insults, I’m happy to engage. If not, no need to ban me—I’ll tip my hat and see myself out.
Additionally, the linked article doesn’t say anything about kickbacks—it says a huge portion of U.S. aid doesn’t even reach Ukraine. Much of it stays in the U.S. to support American defense contractors and replenish stockpiles. If you have actual evidence of money being ‘laundered and shipped back as kickbacks,’ feel free to share it—but this article doesn’t prove your point.
Joe Biden openly, as Vice President, bragged about withholding foreign aid to Ukraine until the prosecutor investigating Burisma (you know, that company that was paying Hunter Biden $50K a month for doing nothing?) was fired.
IIRC, he withheld a billion dollars of US aid until he got the prosecutor fired. Misuse of power. You can look it up. I think you are mistaking his actions for what you accused Trump of, but that is the way of folks with TDS, so I expect that from folks like you.
Ukraine hasn’t been a strategic partner, ever. It has been a money suck but has never, in any way, benefitted the US. Please feel free to back your assertion. I doubt you can.
Either get your facts straight, or don’t comment. Either is fine with me.
You don’t get to rewrite history though. Please, show where Trump “openly attempted to withhold aid to Ukraine for political dirt”…. Be specific. You made the claim, back it.
The 50% isn’t accountable and it doesn’t go to Ukraine…it isn’t paying for the arms, it goes to folks in the US….Just who do you think profits from those funds? Certainly not Ukraine, at least not the country or it’s army….
The push to fire Shokin wasn’t just Biden—it was the position of the U.S. government, the EU, and the IMF because Shokin was seen as corrupt and ineffective. And despite the claim, he wasn’t even actively investigating Burisma. If you have actual evidence to the contrary, feel free to provide it—but this has been fact-checked to death.
Unlike Biden, Trump’s attempt to withhold aid was personal and political, not official U.S. policy. He blocked $391 million in military aid to Ukraine while pressuring Zelenskyy to announce an investigation into the Bidens. This is explicitly laid out in the Trump impeachment hearings, where multiple officials testified that Trump was running a shadow policy through Rudy Giuliani to pressure Ukraine.
Trump’s own officials testified that he froze military aid while pressuring Ukraine to announce an investigation into the Bidens. That’s why he was impeached. You can read the official impeachment inquiry findings if you want specifics—it’s all documented under oath.
Ukraine has significantly weakened Russia’s military without a single American soldier having to fight. That directly benefits U.S. security. If Ukraine falls, do you think Putin will stop there? How would that impact NATO and global stability?
The majority of Ukraine aid is spent here in the U.S. on American-made weapons and military equipment. If you’re concerned about accountability, why not support more oversight instead of cutting aid and giving Putin a free pass?
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Calling everything TDS doesn’t change the facts. If you disagree, how about addressing the points with evidence instead of name-calling?
Wow, you really live in a fantasy world, don’t you?
I will take the time (0.4 seconds of search engine time) to refute ONE of your statements with a cite:
https://nypost.com/2023/09/08/despite-bidens-claim-europeans-werent-trying-to-oust-ukraine-prosecutor-targeting-hunters-firm/
Biden admitted to using his power to get the prosecutor fired.
The rest your statements you can do the work on. If yer gonna state lies you better back them up with reputable cites or don’t make them….
Making unsupported (and untruthful) statements won’t get you far here. You are listening to propaganda put forth by people who twist the truth to suit them. Or perhaps you are one of those people.
You might be better off at a place like Comrade Misfit, (https://eb-misfit.blogspot.com/) where there is little resemblance to reality but they get to bash Trump with half truths and lies.
Trump was indicted for many things by a Woke judicial system. I found most of the charges to be spurious and simply an attempt top distract him in his campaign and to punish him.
I still think you are a troll. If not, stop acting like one.
You get one more chance to either give real cites to back your statements or to retract them…or leave.
The irony of demanding ‘real’ sources while citing the New York Post—an outlet infamous for tabloid-level spin—isn’t lost on me. But more importantly, your pattern is clear: dismiss anything inconvenient as a lie, throw in some insults, and declare victory. That might work in a closed echo chamber, but for anyone genuinely interested in facts, it’s transparent. The documented reason for Shokin’s firing, agreed upon by the U.S., EU, and IMF, is easily found in non-partisan sources. If you really cared about accuracy, you’d know that. But we both know that’s not what you’re here for. Hat tip for the “one last chance” routine.
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RJ1913:
I’m tryin here. You dismiss my sources, but you don’t provide any others to refute them. Why is that? Is it because it has been shown that the “approved” sources were paid to print the Biden Administration’s approved versions of the stories? (feel free to refute that one as well)
Please, feel free to provide something as a cite other than text you wrote that shows your bias (which I find ironic since you claim that is what I am doing).
Put up, or shut up. If you don’t put up, I will ban you as a troll.
Feel free to contribute in a meaningful way or get banned. I don’t care which. You have the chance to contribute something other than empty words, do it.
Or don’t